Target: tourist
Sales: very pushy.
Aftermath: I asked for refund after couple hour and they said it cannot be refund.
I dun want to say any extra word or tellig them what I found from the site.
I just made a clear statement, I want to refund, I need money back.
Then their reality showed: unfriendly, attitude.
So here's a story.
Recently I traveled to London and had a walk to New Bond Street. On my way to almost end of the street, one of the sales on Sakare store was standing outside approaching me, offered me a free cube of soap.
Aftermath: I asked for refund after couple hour and they said it cannot be refund.
I dun want to say any extra word or tellig them what I found from the site.
I just made a clear statement, I want to refund, I need money back.
Then their reality showed: unfriendly, attitude.
Recently I traveled to London and had a walk to New Bond Street. On my way to almost end of the street, one of the sales on Sakare store was standing outside approaching me, offered me a free cube of soap.
She start introducing her product,and I found she was friendly at the beginning, she was like: your Asian you speak good English. She introduce her name is Ronie with one 'n', from Israel. She guided me inside the store and promote me with a dead sea nail buffer. I was tempting when I saw the result that my nail got shiny, however when I asked the price (30pound), that's where I start to feel the sales being pushy. When I told her I will consider it(because I found expensive for just a nail buffer, and usually I don't buy a random cosmetic product unless Ive done a research) , She then started putting on some other products talking about how amazing and beneficial they were, continue to promote a nail kit which include a lotion, nail buffer and file with 40 pound, as well a peeling gel all together 65pound. In the conversation from the beginning, I said I'm only interest about the nail buffer, but the pushy selling method did not stop, she continue promote me with hand scrub. I start to feel uninterested, so I said maybe I'll think about it and come back later. She then go back with selling the nail kit and said: listen the pack is 40(pound), I will give you 30. It was tempting to buy but I didn't take it, then she was like : listen, just between you and I, I'll give you a discount 25pound because I see you need it, and my boss is not here. After many approach I feel bad if I didn't accept the offer, so i end up bought the kit.
After I step out I start to wonder about this product, I went to one of the nearest place with free wifi for google. Well, the sales mentioned their business opened for 8 years, but when I google there wasn't much review, result regard this store, or this product, maybe I was searching in a wrong place? However there's a site with the review product and sales which I found out 25pound with a kit set is not like a price that has to be that 'secret' and special; also an article said how these salesman maybe illegal worker; they have to be pushy on sales for making commission, etc.
With these info I found from the site, I decided I should go back for refund ( in UK, there's 28 days refund policy).
So around an hour or two later, I went back to the store with refund,. The sales named Philip, recognize and came to me, I told him I want to refund. He looked at my receipt and said, this is a special price she gave, it cannot be refund. So I said : yes you can. He saw me being assertive, so he went to Ronie (she looked at me for few second then she looked back continue with another client) and came back said I need to wait for 20 minutes because she was busy with the client. I said I can wait, but I guess she feel not comfortable when there's customer in store wandering around. so after 3minutes, Ronie came to me and said: you know I gave you staff discount, it cannot be refund, just because you saw the receipt on the back(policy) but its a staff price I gave.
Well all I said is: I need the money, so I need to refund.
She gave me attitude, and was obviously unhappy and told Philip to make refund for her and walk away.
Philip made the refund for me.
To conclude, The product might be good but the skill of selling just surprise me that happen on famous new bond street in London.
The major reason I want to refund because I found its really expensive, and there's a link about illegal worker which I disagree to support such activity.
With these info I found from the site, I decided I should go back for refund ( in UK, there's 28 days refund policy).
Well all I said is: I need the money, so I need to refund.
She gave me attitude, and was obviously unhappy and told Philip to make refund for her and walk away.
Philip made the refund for me.
The major reason I want to refund because I found its really expensive, and there's a link about illegal worker which I disagree to support such activity.
I tried to go to their site http://sakare.com/
There's nothing there other then picture.
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(Oct 18, 2014)
To People to left comments in my blog: I do read your comments from time to time, and I appreciated you had
shared the experience to the world (whoever google "sakare" n found my blog), but I am not able to solve this problem as
I was a tourist and a victim too. However, I believed the more people commented,
the more awareness will bring. Meanwhile, I do hope someone in England can do
something about this.
i had a same experience a week ago.. although i didn't spend much, i still feel bad.. :( they look like a high-end store but they are actually not..
ReplyDeletethey stopped me on saturday night outside covent garden store im a 53 year old bloke going to night work at 22;30 what are they even doing open at that time of night mind you the free soap was alright got 2 before i left
ReplyDeleteThey are bullies...They have different prices for different people..depends on the salesman/woman skills. The staff have been treated badly, working 12 hours shift and not allowed to have a break, or even a snack after been on their feet for hours. (Covent garden)
ReplyDeleteExactly - total scam artists.
DeleteAndie
Thanks for let me know. Guess I'm not the only one been targeted.
ReplyDeleteI had a similar experience outside the New Bond St store. I was accosted by a man asking what cream I used on my face, which I politely rebuffed. Unfortunately my husband was caught out by this store's tactics and hard sell and was talked into parting with £80 for four nail kits (allegedly 4 for the price of 2). The kits are, in my estimation, worth a maximum of £10 each. If you pass this shop do as I did, ignore the sales patter and walk on.
ReplyDeleteMy name is Andie (I couldn't just enter my name so I went for the anonymous option) - I went in there today, a guy called Philip - YES - had given me that little soap and told me of special offers inside, so I went in (although I do know this sort of 'scam' and pushy sales tactics) and sure enough, salt scrub on hands...I was told it's £45. I then asked about under eye serums to reduce puffiness and also firming serums for the contours of my face - I told Philip that my current brand had increased their price to £750 for 100ml. He then put stuff under my eye, looked fine. He told me that the company, Sakare, had re-branded Premier Dead Sea products (then my penny dropped as their sales reps are VERY pushy), that the company was now owned by a Japanese man and that he (Philip) was only here because they had done some press launches. Then he demonstrated the Premier Dead Sea BIOX Thermal Beauty Experience Mask plus the serum to me on one side of my face - I didn't quite like the heat but, okay, I went along with it. I asked how much the serum was - £750 (!) and the mask as well. I was also told that their gold range is £1250 for the set. I told him that, although the result on my skin looked impressive, I was NOT prepared to spend £750, if I was, I'd have bought my current brand, which is exceptionally good but the price increase was too much. He offered me a deal: Half price for the mask (£325) plus the serum for free AND also a tub of the salt scrub. When I told him I'd like to sleep on it and come back tomorrow, he told me he was not going to be there anymore, so I said I'll go and check my credit card status and come back (which I did not). I went on line at home to research the prices - Premier Dead Sea serums are NOWHERE NEAR that price! I'll dress differently tomorrow and see if the guy is there or not, then I'll test one of their other staff and see what prices they offer me then. All I can say is that one should report them to the trading standard office - I will certainly try and find out where one can do this.
ReplyDeleteI just found a UK website for them: http://www.beautypremier.co.uk/ - the list price for this mask is £139.95 (!!) and the serum is £129.95 (!!!) I will print this out and take it to the store tomorrow.
Deleteit's an amazing private show and an experience
Deletesame experience tonight!
ReplyDeleteToo many customers are being ripped off by this company. What can we legally do to complain about them rather then just all these blogs? Where does one go to make a real complaint? Obviously I have been a victim of this scam too.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report-a-fraud-including-online-crime-questions
Deletei think we could try going on this website or London Metropolitan police website to complain!!
i believe that if all victims joined up to make a complain to the firm, legal actions will be taken!!!
but too bad im already away from london and in russia now!!! LEGAL ACTIONS NEEDED... and darn it... its on NEW BOND street man!!
FYI, when i asked for VAT refund. One of the Sales leader told me they just opened a year ago, currently a new organic shop so its TAX FREE for a year. i should've gone back and make some research before buying it!!
DeleteI was ripped off by them today. Has anyone tried to refund?
ReplyDeleteI refunded on the same day.
DeleteI was also talked into spending £85 today but walked back within minutes and requested a refund and got it.
DeleteEven though staff told me at first they.would only exchange.
I has my own interesting encounter with the Sakare salesguy some time back. He was quite forward but polite so I was patient with him. Once I was lead into the store I was quick to notice the neat aesthetics and how the products were showcased. However things started getting interesting when the salesman started trying one product after another. I initially remained skeptical but when he gave a sucker deal, I felt for it. As I walked back out of the store, it did click into my mind whether I have been ripped off. Anyway I reached back home and tried out the hand cream and facial toner that I brought and was suitably impressed. The facial toner instantly removed all traced of grime from my face and left my skin refreshed to the core. Moreover it kept the skin soft and moist which made my day. Here’s my 2 cents – guys at Sakare are pushy but their products rock and are worth every pound you spend on them
ReplyDeleteI am from Belgium and I was in London a couple of days ago. I still feel bad about the amount of money I spent in the Sakare shop in Covent Garden. My husband and I just passed by and one of the salesmen asked where we were from. We ignored him, because I hate pushy salespeople. But he then jumped in front of us and offered us a free cube of soap and asked us to come in. He said it would only take a minute. We went in, I still don't know why. And when we came out, it was probably 40 minutes later... He first demonstrated the nail kit and I have to say I was surprised by the result. I just turned 30 the day before, so I wanted to treat myself and decided to go along and buy it. After that, he tricked me into trying the salt scrub and the mineral peeling. The salesman asked me if I liked the products and yes, I did. But that didn't mean I wanted to buy everything he had in store! Yet he had already taken the products aside for me. He saw my hesitation and then offered me a deal, so I would get certain products for free. My husband said I deserved a treat and so I went along with it. Although at that point, it started getting really irritating and I just wanted to leave. However, I just didn't see a way to do that. The salesman then decided to try and sell me even more and started to comment on my face and complexion. I just turned 30, but I think I can safely say that I look younger. Still, he tried to trick me into buying a facial treatment (a serum and something else) that would have the same effect as botox. Seriously? I don't think any woman of my age should think about using botox or anything like it. He saw my expression and then tried to convince my husband that it would look a lot better. To be true, I did look less tired when the product was applied. But he then told me the price and that just closed the door for me. I really wasn't going to spend 250 pounds on beauty products I've never heard of. So I said no to that. He made me feel like I had to explain why I didn't want to buy it. It really shouldn't be like that! In the end, I did leave with the nail kit, the body salt, body butter and mineral gel combo. When he told me the price, I hesitated, because it was so much. He had told me the prices while I was trying the products, but he was throwing so many numbers around that it got really confusing. I payed anyway, but I felt uneasy and ripped off leaving the shop and now that I read about this company online, I feel even worse. I wanted to look up the prices online to see if I really did get a deal, but their website only shows a couple of pictures.
ReplyDeleteI don't consider myself an easy target, I am not easily impressed and not easily pushed into something. But the way they pitch it to you, is so sneaky! I'm ashamed that I let them push me around like that. I learned about these practices in law school (consumer rights etc...) and I always thought it wouldn't happen to me. But it did and I feel so ashamed! I can only hope that people read this and avoid this place!
Please, I need some help!
ReplyDeleteI went to London with my mother last week and we were stopped by a sales man. We bought our products at sakare and left them there because we were travelling back to Spain a few hours later.
They told us that they were sending our products by post, but have not received anything yet. I can't find any telephone or e-mail and their website seems to be under construction...
Could you please let me know what can we do? We spent 105€!!!:(
BTW my e-mail is: ajimenezpinton@gmail.com
ReplyDeletePlease, contact me if you have any good idea to solve this!!
I had exactly the same thing 2 weeks ago when i came to london during a school trip. They offered me a cube of soap and as i was with a friend she took us into the store and began to show us her products. She told us that the price of the kit with the lotion, the cube for the nails and two others things was at the price of 35 pounds. When I began to leave, she said, "I will do a price for you, at 25 pounds". As I see in the comments, it's the same for lots of people. This is a scam.
ReplyDeleteI was ready to ask my son who lives in London to either visit the place and buy something for me or to get n touch with them and arrange for the products to be delivered into his house. Now that I read all these comments I recall the way I was approached by the street sales man, the pushy way to present, promote and persuade me to buy the products. I realize that I was equally ripped off as I left the shop having convinced to buy SAKARE DEAD SEA peeling, body scrub , body butter and several small pieces of soap as a gift and I paid 250 pounds. I am so sceptical to proceed with a new order after all although have to admit that I am very pleased with the results of these products on my skin. What a pitty
ReplyDeleteI love the products and i had a nice experience in Bond Street. I've been there 3 times to buy my toner and my mask and i've never seen people been bulied or forced to buy. i have fun ever time i go so .... i recomend!!
ReplyDeleteThis store is a complete scam, product quality is very poor, and cannot be refunded.
ReplyDeleteMy name is Stephan and I am from Bavaria/Germany. I was on holiday together with my 13 years old daughter in London. The very same happened to us.....we have been approached by a girl (her name is Cristina, she sad she´s from Moldavia) on the street, offering a cube of soap. The rest what happened to us is precisely what the other people here describe....products, number, special prices, the boss is not here, again offerings together with additional products at half the costs, I´m your friend, where do you come from.......all this bullshit. My daughter was fascinated, when she saw her shiny nails....so I couldn´t resist. We came out of the store having spent 440,- pound plus 160,- for some extra lotion whatsoever. I am a man having not much idea about cosmetics, and ever since we left, I feel heavily angry...mostly about myself, because I was so stupid! I didn´t thought this ever would happen to me....but now I spent more for these cosmetics than our complete hotel reservation!
ReplyDeleteI am also angry because Cristina (at least this is her real name, I checked it on Facebook) wrapped me around her finger with the old "a good father cares for his daughter and treats her like a princess" tour. How the hell yould I be so stupid.
So my conclusion: regardless if the products are worth it, stay away from this store and accept nothing from them, not even this bloody soap cube! Good products absolutely don´t need this aggressive way of selling.
I've been coerced into the shop in Covent Garden exactly in the same way as others describe with a cube of soap and the sales assistant wanting to show me the trick that would 'change my life'. I feel so bad about letting someone manipulate me and I wouldn't assume that I would have given in to such deceitful tactics. I was offered the nail kit at £40 and obviously turned it down, which made the sales assistant offer it to me for £25. It's way too much for these products even though the lotion smells nice and the buffer is really good…Their selling tactics are outrageous: it makes one think of a sect…Should be avoided at all costs...
ReplyDeletewell i have also just been to their shop, but i must say i am very pleased with all my products, great service and reasonable prices. However i only paid £80 for the nailkit, peeling gel and two scrubs so i guess its all in the different sales persons and customers.. I would come back when i re visit London
ReplyDeleteI too was convinced to go inside the store in Covent garden thanks to the selling tactics. I tried the nail kit and the eye serum and saw the immediate difference! 450 pounds though. Too much, which I said. Then she added the other eye cream, the body butter, the facial serum, milk cleanser, toner and the mud mask.
ReplyDeleteYea, 450 pounds is a lot of money, and yes, I feel kind of ripped off. But the products really seem amazing so I will do my best to enjoy them.
https://www.sakare.com
ReplyDeleteVery pushy aggressive selling outside the Covent garden store. I dont see any other shops colonising the street with pushy sales staff outside on the street. Be very and dont feel guilty about not buying their stuff. I usually accept their free soap sample as I have a jamming front door and soap is a great lubricant - never use it to wash myself! As for their other products they are hugely overpriced - I believe much of the stuff is from Israel. Beware of their sales techniques and being ripped off.
ReplyDeleteI have often walked past their Covent Garden store but always resisted accepting what they were offering as I thought it was some type of Turkish delight which I’m not interested in. Today one of them managed to catch me and I discovered the bait was actually soap! I was then obliged to follow them into the store whereupon they went through the whole rigmarole of showing me the wonders of the nail kit and other lotions they had on offer. She told me the crazy price and offered me a special promotional reduction and although I did feel obliged to buy something, I stood my ground and told her in no uncertain terms that I would not be buying anything "today” but may come back if I need to buy a gift for someone. She was very determined to persuade me to part with my hard earned cash! I noticed that there were no prices anywhere and asked her what the cheapest item they sold was, as I felt it would be rude not to buy anything. Curiously, she did not know, but said "probably a bar of soap"! Conclusion: Don’t be sucked in. Don’t be intimidated. Don’t feel bad to walk out without buying anything - I did.
ReplyDeleteI'm from Holland, I'm a 64-year old woman, the same thing happened to me in Paris. Can you spare just one minute, etc. She wantend € 40 for the nail kit and after I said I didn't want to spend any money on my nails at all I got off. with the nail kit at a student discount, I paid € 25 for something I didn't want OR need......
ReplyDeleteThe business is a typical cheating one. They said they have branches in Berlin, Amsterdam but there is nothing on their website. Liars. The brand was registered in US in 2013 and shops popped up in London recently. The products are ordinally ones which quality is the same as 10 pounds you can found in South East Asia. They spent a lot to pretend a luxurious products. Unbeliverable that London allows such a bad business exists in Oxford Street and Convent Gardens.
ReplyDeleteMy friend was trapped too. When asked if there were any duty free arrangement, they said their products already duty-freed. Is it possible? There should be tax evasion issue. In other developed countries, they committed dishonest trade practice and false verbal trade description. London law enforement agencies incuding consumer councel should send undercove to investigate and press should report it widely to warn tourtist and consumers.
ReplyDeleteI'm from Belgium and had the same soapbait experencience last week in Bond Street. They trick you into bying stuff you dont want. It all goes so fast! Before you know it you walk outside with a jar of scrub at 'student discount'. Dont let them trick you!!
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ReplyDeleteI went there today and had a pushy salesman called Leo. He did push me to but some products. When I was leaving he then tried to get me to buy more products and wanted me to spend an additional £290. He wasn't happy that I refused. He dropped the price to £125 and I still said no. He made a comment that I can afford it as he spotted a prada shopping bag with shoes in (these were in fact a present and none of his business). When I left he shop I was so cross I spent money in there and planned to return for a refund. However this evening I did try one of the products and very happy with it. I will give the others as Christmas presents. I may like the products but I do not like the shop, I do not like the sales people and I will not spend money there again!!!!
ReplyDeleteBy the way.... If anyone is having trouble getting money back threaten to speak to Trading Standards. That usually does the trick.
ReplyDeleteThis product is sold by some mysterious huge parent company who has many differently named stores and rebrandings of the exact same products. For example, "Soap and Co" and "Deja Vu" are other versions of "Deep Sea Cosmetics." I think this is done on purpose so that it will harder to research their scams. Anyways, this "peeling gel" DOES NOT exfoliate at all. The glycerin and aloe vera gel are what leave your skin feeling soft and looking good- two very cheap ingredients. The "dead skin" you see is actually plastic. That's why the gel will produce "dead skin" over and over and over without ever leaving your skin feeling raw or scrubbed off. Also why it will produce "dead skin" on literally any surface. I did some cursory research on the ingredients, and here is what I found:
ReplyDeleteIngredients: aqua (water), sd alcohol 40, glycerin, propylene glycol, carbomer, aloe barbadensis leaf juice, phenoxyethanol, anthemis nobilis (chamomile) flower extract, camellia oleifera extract, cucumber (cucumis sativus) extract, maris aqua (dead sea water), sodium hydroxide, fragrance (parfum), polyvinylalcohol crosspolymer, triethylene glycol, tocopheryl acetate (vit.E), Mentha piperita (peppermint) oil, triethanolamine, ginseng (panax ginseng) extract.
SD alcohol 40: Rubbing alcohol. Evaporates faster than water. Dissolves surface oils on skin. (Can dry out sensitive skin.)
Glycerin: Humectant. Readily absorbs water. Attracts water from lower layer of skin and increases moisture on surface of skin.
Carbomer: Helps distribute or suspend an insoluble solid in liquid. Used to keep emulsions from separating into their oil and liquid components. Absorbs and retains water.
Aloe barbadensis leaf juice: Aloe vera gel. Cheap and moisturising.
Phenoxyethanol: An aromatic alcohol. Has a floral odor. Soluble in water. Used as a preservative. Evaporates quickly.
Sodium hydroxide: Lye. Highly alkaline. In small amounts, regulates pH of a product. In higher concentrations in a significant skin irritant.
Polyvinylalcohol crosspolymer: This one is a creepy ingredient because I couldn't find out much about it. From what I gathered on Google, I think it's a solid dry powder that is insoluble but dispensable in water. Used as a bulking agent.
Triethylene glycol: Colorless, odorless viscous liquid. Used as a plasticizer for vinyl. Widely used as a dehumidifying agent. Attracts and absorbs water.
Triethanolamine: Strong base. Used as an emulsifier and a surfactant. pH balancer. (I found something that says it may cause liver tumors in mice.)
As for the "extracts" and "minerals," those are just thrown in to make this product sound fancy. They're in such small amounts that they might as well not be there.
I'm not a chemist, so I don't 100% understand how these chemicals are interacting, but I'm pretty sure that most of the ingredients evaporate as you rub it on your face, leaving behind the no-longer emulsified vinyls and polymers. This is a grossly overpriced gimmick product made with cheap ingredients and its only real function is a moisturizer (because of the glycerin and aloe vera gel.)
Same experience twice, at two Westfield shopping malls in London!!! VERY PUSHY! HARD-SELL!
ReplyDeleteI travelled alone to London this weekend and I was on my way from Victoria's Secret in New Bond Street when a woman lured me in giving me free soap.
ReplyDeleteI was very sceptical and wasn't going to buy anything, so she told me "one moment, I will see what I can do for you". She looked at something on the computer screen and came back, saying if I bought the facial cleanser she would give me the salt scrub and the body butter for free. I paid 65£ (is that actually what it costs for ONE bottle of that stuff?) and then she tried selling me more products. I said that I would think about it and she kept saying if I came back another day she would not be there and I would not be able to get the special offer (shh, must not tell anyone, it's a secret!).
I feel bad for spending so much money on something I didn't need. They are so manipulative. Stay away!!
Got conned today too!
ReplyDeleteEnded up purchasing four products for £135 which was supposed to be a student discount and offered a free facial.
When I got home, I found out that their website does not even work!
Discovered one product was not even a sakare product!
A total scam that has made me feel angry and upset with myself for falling for their tricks!
Thought I purchased premium products which I planned on giving to my mother-in-law as a gift as I am a housewife and stay at home mother who is not earning a salary anymore and consider these products too expensive to use myself!
Cannot believe that they are situated on the prestigious bond street and can get away with conning folks like this! It it literally daylight robbery and makes me feel sick!
I will try to report them to trading standards.
Please all, avoid this store like the plague and do not be fooled like us!
Was accosted by sales person outside sakare store at south molten street near bond street station last Saturday with free soap bait.
ReplyDeleteTo cut a long story short, I ended up parting with £135 for four face and body products at a ' special student discount' and offered a 'free' facial worth £80.
When I got home, I tried to check their website for product knowledge but website did not even work!
All I saw were bad reviews of both the products and the sales people!
Thought I bought premium products but they r just cheap products in disguise.
I could not sleep that night as I was so upset with myself!
Went back to store earlier and the lying bitch who originally sold me the products was there so I asked her politely for refund. Said that I was housewife and stay at home mother with two boys and cannot justify using such expensive products and that I needed cash back for something else.
She told me she understood as she had a baby daughter too but I remembered she told me she on Saturday that she just got married and had no kids yet!
Such a liar!
She said that my products were highly discounted and could only offer exchange when the back of the receipt stated I could refund unopened, unused products in original packaging for up to 28 days after sale.
I showed her this and still she said she needed to phone manager and asked a colleague to phone him.
I was then informed again that the products can only b exchanged.
Told her it was my right as consumer to get a full refund despite discount.
I then left threatening to get the police as I saw a few of them on Oxford Street.
Went to police station but police said it was a civil dispute and they could not do anything, however I was entitled to full refund.
Policeman told me to return to store, threaten them with trading standards and demand refund.
I phoned up trading standards but got automated foreign message!
Went back to store and this time the manager was outside with the bitch.
Bitch accussed me of cursing her when all I said was I was going to get the police!
Told manager she was lying and he said another colleague heard me too!
Told him that they were all dishonest and that how can they lie like that to my face?
He asked me to stop shouting and he would refund me as there were other folks in the store and he did not want them to hear.
I finally got my refund but was fuming! How can such a store operate in a prestigious area?
Also, saw another store opposite debenhams.
Tell everyone you know who goes to or works nearby to avoid the damn store like the plague!
All lies and a total scam!
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